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Unread Mar 12th, 2004, 06:46 PM   #1
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I need help with a character design please

I'm having a trouble with the femininity of a character, the problem is the species is, well ugly *L*
It's Qi, she's Haro's love interest and is a cow saiga antelope.

Okay here's pics of a male saiga
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/saigahorns.jpg
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/saiga.jpg

And this is how I stylized them
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/saiga_char1.jpg
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/haro_run.jpg
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/ghenrough.jpg

So that gives you an idea how I worked with the saiga features. You might not agree with how I stylized it but it took me a while to get at that which I'm happy with so I probably wont change it too much for how it is now.

Okay now here are pics of girl saiga, they're the polled(no horns) ones
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/lushchek.jpg
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/mng19952.jpg

And this is how I did up Qi.
http://www.phalafala.org/saiga/qi_rough.gif

But I don't know what to do with her. She just isn't very pretty. Now saiga cows aren't exactly pretty either but I must be able to make her a bit better looking. I don't want to deviate her too much for the actual saiga so that's my dilema.
I did try to give her a bit of hair, but I just couldn't get it to work.

So if any one has any suggestions I'd love to hear them.

Sorry it's just a little sketch of her, but took me long enough to get that *L*
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Unread Mar 12th, 2004, 08:13 PM   #2
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I'm not the greatest at char design, but this is interesting so I'll see what I can think of.

*runs off, sketches a bit, runs back*

Okay, when I was sketching, I noticed that while trying to make them "prettier", the main thing I saw doing was softening the curves. Less like bony angles and more like a gentle curve. I made the female's nose less weighty at the bottom and spread the mass more evenly throughout the muzzle. When they have their winter coats, the lines get less angular and more soft because they're hidden under the fur. They look a lot prettier in their winter coats. :p You could try emphasizing the forehead more, seperating it from the eyes as a distinct dome rather than a continuation of the eye ridges. That's another thing that's just a part of your style- in yours, the eyes are not bulging, but rather sunk into the face like a human's. That's a big part of the style, you might not want to change that.

I also made the eyes less human and more lamb-ish, which wouldn't really work without modifying your style, and I love the style you have as it is, especially with the males.

*L* Yeah, most of this is just rambling, but hopefully something in there is helpful. Your siagas rawk anyway you draw them.
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Unread Mar 13th, 2004, 09:15 AM   #3
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well, in cases like these, you end up having to sacrifice some acurracy of anatomy for looks ^^;. soften the natural shrarp edges of her face, and do stuff like make the nose a little shorter than usual, the cheekbones not so prominant. i just did a little sketchy cause my describing skills aren't much better then that ^^;.

Ack, sorry my scanner was acting up (the yellow lines )..

hope i was some help ^^;

Oh yeah, and I heart the way you draw em . i've never even seen that species before XD. they is coo :3
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Unread Mar 13th, 2004, 10:26 AM   #4
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Thanks so much both of you for the sketches and the ideas!!

I like how you softened the shape Pegs. I might kind of blend her cheek bone into the colouring not so much the design it's self and that softens her a lot.
Vela she looks very pretty but just not quite like an saiga still. I'd love to use that desigsn for like a bontebuck or oryx. I guess I'm trying to keep some of the uniqueness of saiga in teh design. The double slantimng nose is great. I just added that sort of blunting like you did to her nose and she's more girly already.


Thanks again so much. Gave me lots of great ideas!!
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